Experiments

002

Atompunk Hotrods

How do I get one woman and one hot rod in every image, and nothing else?

Part 01

From the first test to the ten I picked

I took the visual language of Atompunk Girl (1950s anime editorial, aged ivory paper, gouache and airbrush) and moved it to hot rods with atomic parts built into the engine. The rule: one adult woman, one car, one camera. Most of what I learned came from the images I threw away.

The one I pickedID 006, one of my ten. It comes from the first batch.Krea2 · txt2img · 1024×1280 (4:5)
PromptSee the prompt I used
Model
artUniverse v1.0 (Krea2)
seed
9174102
steps
12
CFG
1
sampler
euler · simple
size
1024×1280

LoRAs

  • Retro Anime v1 0.42
  • 50s Atompunk Thriller v1 0.48
  • Line Art v1 0.25
  • Outlined 0.18
  • Warm Pastel v1 0.16
  • Hips & narrow waist v1 0.50

The prompt, as I wrote it

House style · custom

A turquoise and cream open roadster hot rod with a traditional grille, exposed polished V8, turbine-assisted blower, analog reactor gauges, skinny whitewall front wheels, huge rear slicks and small swept atomic fins. One adult Black pin-up with voluminous natural curls sits on the rear quarter, one hand on the cockpit rim, legs crossed at the ankles without hiding the car. Coral cropped jacket, teal bustier, ivory high-waisted shorts and lace-up boots. No emblems, decals, flags or writing anywhere.

Negative prompt · custom

The scene and the settings are all here. What's marked as custom is mine: the part of the recipe I'm still building.

3 attempts

Three tests to find the direction

Before making a batch I tested three cars: a red chopped coupe, a turquoise roadster and an ivory-and-black salt-flat hot rod. I wasn’t after the best image, but after what each one did better.

Each frame is an attempt. ✕ discarded · ✓ better · + added · ♥ my favorite · ★ my pick · – test or option.
  1. D01Test

    Red chopped coupe. The best integration of the atomic parts into the engine.

    Direction test 1
  2. D02Base concept

    Turquoise roadster. The strongest pin-up hierarchy: she reads first and the car second. Its finned roadster came back in batch 1 and ended up among my ten.

    Direction test 2
  3. D03Test

    Ivory-and-black salt-flat hot rod. The cleanest mechanics of the three.

    Direction test 3

7 attempts

One image, two scenes

The failure I had to fight the most: the model puts two cars, two women or two stacked views into a single image. Asking for a single frame in the prompt didn’t stop it. What worked was rejecting them one by one and, when a shot kept failing, changing the shot.

Each frame is an attempt. ✕ discarded · ✓ better · + added · ♥ my favorite · ★ my pick · – test or option.
  1. B2 · 05Discarded

    The batch I asked to be “single frame”. It drifted into Western pulp pin-up and lost the anime look, so I dropped the whole batch.

    Batch 2 · single-frame prompt
  2. B3 · 01Discarded

    Back to the anime 70 / semi-real 30 recipe from Atompunk Girl, and this side profile came out as three scenes stacked in one image.

    Batch 3
  3. B3 · 01 v2Better

    Same car as a diagonal view: one car, one woman. This one passed.

    Batch 3 · replacement
  4. B4 · 10Discarded

    Engine portrait with a second car showing at the bottom of the image.

    Batch 4 · first try
  5. B4 · 10 v2Discarded

    I asked for “no overview”. The secondary car stayed.

    Batch 4 · v2
  6. B4 · 10 v3Discarded

    An even more extreme close-up of the engine. Still a secondary car.

    Batch 4 · v3
  7. B4 · 10 v4Better

    I stopped fixing the shot and changed it: a pin-up at the rear wheel. Solved on the fourth try.

    Batch 4 · v4

4 attempts

When the faces went flat

In batch 5 the atomic parts finally read, but the faces became flat retro cartoons. I suspected the negative guidance. The A/B test said no.

Each frame is an attempt. ✕ discarded · ✓ better · + added · ♥ my favorite · ★ my pick · – test or option.
  1. B5 · 02Superseded

    Batch 5 made the atomic parts readable in all ten, but the faces went flat, like a retro cartoon, and this one has a signature in the corner.

    Batch 5 · original
  2. B5 · 02 no NAGTest

    Same seed without negative guidance: the faces are just as flat, so it wasn’t the cause. And the old failures came back: this seed shows two cars and a second woman.

    Same seed · NAG off
  3. B5 · 02 faceBetter

    The real cause: my scene texts had cartoon gestures (winks, smiles) and no face description. One sentence about a semi-real face and calmer gestures brings back the volume in cheekbones, nose and lips.

    Same seed · face sentence
  4. B5b · 02My pick

    The whole batch redone with that sentence. This one is among my ten.

    Batch 5b · same seeds and scenes

9 attempts

The toy car

When she sits on the car or stands next to it on the ground, the car shrinks into a toy. I fixed it in the prompt with size anchors (her height, the car’s length, the hood at her waist, the wheel at her hip), not with a LoRA. It fixed two of the three seeds in this test; the corrections I generated afterwards fixed all three.

Each frame is an attempt. ✕ discarded · ✓ better · + added · ♥ my favorite · ★ my pick · – test or option.
  1. R07·01 ADiscarded

    Reclined on the hood, the car shrinks into a toy and her legs run too long.

    Original prompt
  2. R07·01 BBetter

    With size anchors in the text the engine and the wheel get their real size, and the legs come back to normal.

    + size anchors and shorter legs
  3. R07·01 CTest

    Same, with the hips LoRA at 0.35. Hardly any difference from B.

    + hips LoRA 0.35 (instead of 0.5)
  4. R07·03 ADiscarded

    Standing by the front wheel, she shrinks to about 1.20 m.

    Original prompt
  5. R07·03 BBetter

    With the anchors she goes back to a believable height next to the car.

    + size anchors and shorter legs
  6. R07·03 CTest

    Same again with the hips LoRA at 0.35.

    + hips LoRA 0.35 (instead of 0.5)
  7. R09·02 ADiscarded

    Sitting on the ground next to the car, she looks huge and the car looks small.

    Original prompt
  8. R09·02 BBetter

    Kneeling by the jack with the anchors: she and the car read at their real relative size.

    + size anchors and shorter legs
  9. R09·02 CTest

    With the hips LoRA at 0.35. Same result as B.

    + hips LoRA 0.35 (instead of 0.5)

10 attempts

The ten I picked

After twelve batches I ranked by hand the 69 images I liked: 10 in S, 46 in A, 7 in B, 3 in C, 1 in D and 2 in X. Then I picked ten for a carousel. I moved eight from S to A because of small details next to the finalists, and I haven’t defined their order yet.

Each frame is an attempt. ✕ discarded · ✓ better · + added · ♥ my favorite · ★ my pick · – test or option.
  1. ID 006My pick

    Turquoise finned roadster with an exposed V8; she stands beside it with a hand on the door.

    Batch 1 · image 02
  2. ID 008My pick

    Mint rat-rod with a reactor on the back; she leans on the fender with her arms crossed.

    Batch 1 · image 05
  3. ID 019My pick

    Maroon rod seen from the side with the engine in front; she leans on the windshield.

    Batch 3 · image 09
  4. ID 023My pick

    Cobalt roadster seen low, from the wheel, with a red star on the door; she stands at the door.

    Batch 4 · image 05
  5. ID 030My pick

    Rear three-quarter view of a teal roadster; she is at the wheel.

    Batch 4 · image 18
  6. ID 037My pick

    Red rod with a turbine at the tail; she leans on the body with a ponytail.

    Batch 5b · image 02
  7. ID 047My pick

    Ivory rod with a rocket fin; she stands by the front wheel in a teal dress lifted by the wind.

    Batch 7 · image 03
  8. ID 054My pick

    Teal rod with a large turbine; she sits in the doorway in a cream shirt, holding a coffee.

    Batch 9 · image 06
  9. ID 066My pick

    Teal and cream rod; she leans on the door in a cream sweater.

    Batch 12 · image 02
  10. ID 069My pick

    Cream and pink rod; she sits on the hood with the wind catching her skirt.

    Batch 12 · image 10

What I learned

  1. Asking for a single frame doesn’t stop a second scene from appearing. In batch 4, nine of the 29 renders had a duplicated view or car, and image 10 took four attempts: the fix wasn’t a better prompt, it was a different shot.

    Attempts: B4 · 10, B4 · 10 v2, B4 · 10 v3, B4 · 10 v4

  2. When a batch drifts, go back to the recipe that worked. The single-frame batch fell into Western pulp; recovering the anime 70 / semi-real 30 balance from Atompunk Girl brought the style back.

    Attempts: B2 · 05, B3 · 01 v2

  3. Cartoon gestures in the prompt flatten the faces. Winks and smiles gave flat faces in batch 5; an A/B test showed the negative guidance wasn’t to blame, and one sentence describing a semi-real face brought the volume back.

    Attempts: B5 · 02, B5 · 02 no NAG, B5 · 02 face

  4. Size anchors fix the toy car. Giving her height, the car’s length and where the hood and the wheel hit her body corrected the scale; the hips LoRA at 0.35 instead of 0.5 hardly changed anything.

    Attempts: R07·01 A, R07·01 B, R07·01 C

  5. The technical checks and my taste are different filters. Twenty images from batch 4 passed the checks, but only ten of the 69 I ranked ended up in S.

    Attempts: ID 023, ID 030

The next question

Ten images in a carousel are still ten separate images. Which order tells a story?